Hydration and Health: Understanding Water and Weigh

Hydration and Health: Understanding Water and Weigh

Navigating Health, Water, and Weight Loss in Mature Adulthood

In this episode of Mature Adults with Donna and Mike, the hosts begin by discussing a taste test comparing reverse osmosis water with tap water and the significant difference indicated by a parts per million tester. They proceed to tackle the challenges of weight gain, particularly in social settings such as The Villages, and share personal experiences and strategies for maintaining a healthy weight. The conversation transitions into the benefits and drawbacks of various weight loss methods, including traditional diet and exercise, the psychological aspect of eating habits, and modern medical interventions like GLP-1 drugs. They conclude with tips on eating smarter, the potential for certain marijuana formulations as weight loss aids, and the importance of healthier eating habits to combat diseases like diabetes.

00:00 Welcome to Mature Adults with Donna and Mike
00:59 Water Quality Test Results
03:41 Understanding BPA and Bottled Water
06:20 Weight Loss Challenges in The Villages
12:42 Exercise and Swimming Tips
14:48 Food Choices and Social Gatherings
15:02 Healthy Eating Tips for Events
15:29 Exploring Pescatarian Diet
15:48 Medical Approaches to Weight Loss
17:05 Personal Experiences with Weight Loss Drugs
18:19 Sustainable Weight Loss Strategies
19:33 Homemade Healthy Alternatives
21:06 Psychology of Eating Habits
23:04 Moderation and Smart Eating
25:27 Marijuana and Weight Loss
26:15 Travel Eating Challenges
27:13 Conclusion and Next Episode Preview

Transcript

The Mature Adult's Guide to Water and Weight Management

[00:00:08] Nancy: Welcome to Mature Adults with Donna and Mike, the podcast where wisdom meets curiosity and life's next chapter is celebrated. Whether you're navigating retirement, pursuing new passions, or simply looking for a fresh perspective. This is a place to embrace the beauty of aging and discover all the opportunities that come with him.

Join us twice a month as we explore topics that matter to mature adults. From health and wellness to travel, finance, real estate, storytelling, and many more. Together, let's redefine what it means to thrive at this exciting stage of life.

[00:00:53] Mike Roth: This is Mike Roth and Donna Hoover. 

[00:00:55] Donna Hoover: That's me 

[00:00:56] Mike Roth: Thanks for joining me today, Donna. 

[00:00:58] Donna Hoover: thanks for having me. 

[00:00:59] Mike Roth: First thing we wanna report on is the water test from last week. 

[00:01:04] Donna Hoover: Yes. I was quite amazed with that. 

[00:01:06] Mike Roth: So in this test I brought in my left hand a glass of reverse osmosis water, more or less at room temperature.

I took a glass of, water from the faucet, from The Villages unprocessed and asked Donna to taste each one. I said, which one tastes better? 

[00:01:29] Donna Hoover: It was interesting because one of the waters tasted heavier.

I'm going to guess that was, because it has more stuff in it, making it, a weightier feel to water. The other one was more clean, crisp, and more light. 

[00:01:46] Mike Roth: which one did you prefer? 

[00:01:47] Donna Hoover: The light one. 

[00:01:48] Mike Roth: The crisp one. And was in fact, the water in the left hand, which was reverse osmosis water.

[00:01:54] Donna Hoover: I think it's such a good test because you don't realize how you can actually have that big of a difference, but it really felt like the regular water was heavier. 

Like juice versus water. You know what I mean? Like juice has a heavier consistency to it.

So that's best way I can explain it. 

[00:02:12] Mike Roth: Most juices we buy in the store have sugar in them. Added beyond what the fruit had So you buy more. But the next thing we did is we took out a part per million tester, 

And I keep that around to determine when to change the filters In the reverse osmosis system, you can go by the calendar and say, okay, once a year you change out the filters, but that might not be good enough.

Or it might be too frequent. They might go 18 months, they might even go two years depending on how much water you use. And then there's a sediment filter. Then there's the two charcoal filters, and then there's the expensive reverse osmosis membrane. So we took the tester out, and in the reverse osmosis water that you tested It scored an eight. Yes. Eight parts per million, which is pretty low. 

[00:03:02] Donna Hoover: Yes. 

[00:03:03] Mike Roth: I've actually seen it as low as four. We put the same tester, rinsed it off and put it into the standard tap water. Donna, tell the audience what our score was. 

[00:03:13] Donna Hoover: What was it? 

[00:03:14] Mike Roth: ONE HUNDRED AND 88. 

[00:03:16] Donna Hoover: Gotcha. 

[00:03:17] Mike Roth: So that's 180 parts per million of stuff in the water.

[00:03:21] Donna Hoover: Big difference 

[00:03:22] Mike Roth: That you're drinking that you might not want to be drinking. Whether it's lead, iron, phosphates, nitrates, whatever else happens to be in the tap water today. 

[00:03:32] Donna Hoover: And frankly, how much water do you drink around here? A lot. 

[00:03:36] Mike Roth: You're supposed to be drinking three liters a day 

[00:03:38] Donna Hoover: And then you can get into, what's your source of water? If it's not from your sink, you're buying it in a plastic bottle. And is there BPA in that bottle? Probably. And is that leaching into the water at some point. 

[00:03:51] Mike Roth: Our listeners might not know what BPA means. 

[00:03:54] Donna Hoover: I would have to look up. It's like something 

phosphate, bio phosphate something or other? 

It's not what you want in your drinking water. 

[00:04:00] Mike Roth: And when you read the bottle from a store bought plastic bottle that you buy it. Publix or whatever.

There are two types. One is spring water and that's usually pretty good. And then the other one is tap water that's been filtered. In either case, it's not as pure as reverse osmosis water. 

[00:04:21] Donna Hoover: And again, you don't know how much is getting into your water from the bottle. say you buy bottled water and you store it in your garage, and your garage is warm, so now you're heating up plastic with your water in it.

That's not good. 

[00:04:34] Mike Roth: Component of the plastic is released into the water. 

It might be tasteless, 

[00:04:38] Donna Hoover: right? 

[00:04:39] Mike Roth: But it's there. 

And it's not good. 

That's why people have been recommended to use stainless steel containers to drink their water from, or glass. Glass is a little heavy if you drop it, it's dangerous.

[00:04:50] Donna Hoover: True. 

[00:04:50] Mike Roth: Stainless steel, you drop it, dents. 

I did get a glass bottle from Amazon once, and it came in a like those cozies that you put Oh, yeah. Yeah. It had a one of those, because it was glass, like you said, in case you dropped it. 

So you don't have it anymore.

[00:05:04] Donna Hoover: I have it. 

[00:05:05] Mike Roth: you don't use it. 

[00:05:06] Donna Hoover: As you said, it's heavier. 

[00:05:07] Mike Roth: And I guess what is water? Gets a little heavy. 

[00:05:10] Donna Hoover: It does. 

[00:05:11] Mike Roth: And the other issue is this, the stainless steel water containers that many of us use, I know I have one.

Until recently, I hadn't been rinsing it out, washing it with soap. After every use I was, maybe rinsing it out every other time I used it. 

Never bothered with soap. then I read a report that said the bacteria that accumulates inside the stainless steel containers is exceptionally high.

And I noticed the cup you have in here today if you're gonna drink out of it. You're gonna drink through a plastic top. 

So both the stainless steel container would have to be washed with soap and a brush and the top, 

[00:05:53] Donna Hoover: Oh, yes. I always wash the top. That's the part that you're putting your mouth on all the time.

[00:05:57] Mike Roth: You ever put coffee in there? 

[00:05:59] Donna Hoover: No, I keep this one just for water. then I have another one that I will use for coffee or something. 

[00:06:04] Mike Roth: We use stainless steel coffee cups with a plastic top and the stainless steel, it's pretty easy to see with coffee, 'cause coffee stains and you go in there with some steel wool and soap and it cleans right back up.

Plastic, not so much. 

Today We're talking about weight loss, 

[00:06:22] Donna Hoover: which has to do with putting other things in your mouth. 

[00:06:24] Mike Roth: food, 

[00:06:25] Donna Hoover: snacks, chips.

[00:06:27] Mike Roth: Oh, here in The Villages, one of the things I've noticed over time is that when I meet new people in The Villages, I try to remember what they look like the first day I meet 'em, and then compare that in my mind to how they look about a year or two later. 

[00:06:42] Donna Hoover: Oh, Mike, it's like the freshman 15 they talk about at college, right?

[00:06:46] Mike Roth: I don't know what you mean. 

[00:06:46] Donna Hoover: when you go off to college they always say you put on the freshman 15. 15 pounds. I can say that I'm fairly petite, However when we first came here, we started eating out a lot more. back where we lived before.

We ate out maybe once a month. I wanted to cook. here everything is very social. Come meet us for dinner, lunch, come to our event we have snacks to share. Come to this show and bring your own snacks suddenly you are bombarded with all these other sources of food you did not have before.

I put on weight when I first came here And recently I put in a concerted effort to eliminate that problem and have finally become successful. But it's a chore. 

[00:07:32] Mike Roth: Now I have a granddaughter who went off to college on a full ride. In New England College and she's in their, field Hockey. She's one of the goalies and she runs up and down the field and this kid is so thin and she was so thin in high school and she stays thin after two years of college. I just saw her last month and looked great. But as we get older, we tend to eat more. 

[00:07:57] Donna Hoover: And it's not as easy to lose the weight when you're older.

The metabolism's different, the hormones are different. 

[00:08:04] Mike Roth: My first real experience with weight was probably when I was about 10 or 13 years of age, my doctor told my mom that Michael is too thin and they put me on these shakes to drink, to put weight on. 

I think it was actually called, Weight On 

[00:08:19] Donna Hoover: How apropos? 

[00:08:21] Mike Roth: Yeah. they didn't work that great. Because I was very active. It didn't matter what I ate when I was 15 or 17, I was still gonna be thin. But as I got older and got into business and had business lunches and we had drinks at lunch sometimes and after work and friends.

Barbecues and whatever put on a lot of weight. By the time I was 40 I had at least 10 pounds on that I didn't want. then I decided to have my teeth straightened by orthodontic procedures when I was about 40. I thought it would be good for business, But that was the very best weight loss diet that I have ever been on in my life.

[00:09:00] Donna Hoover: That right? 

[00:09:00] Mike Roth: Every time this dentist would put the braces on, he'd tighten them up. Ouch. Thicker wires. My teeth would hurt when I ate. 

[00:09:10] Donna Hoover: Oh. 

[00:09:11] Mike Roth: It encouraged me not to eat. 

[00:09:13] Donna Hoover: Oh. 

[00:09:13] Mike Roth: And then anytime I ate, he told me I had to brush my teeth and he gave me some crazy little brushes that went around the attachment points.

Brushing my teeth wasn't a five minute job anymore. It was a 15 minute job. 

[00:09:24] Donna Hoover: So now it's a chore to eat 

[00:09:26] Mike Roth: Yes. So I ate less. There were days I gave up lunch ' cause I wouldn't have to brush on a business day. The other thing that happened to me is when I moved to California, and this is probably 19 76, 77, 78, something like that.

It was a very warm fall and winter, and I remember swimming in the pool on Christmas day, and the water was just nice and warm. And we swam almost every day, and that helped keep the pounds off. A lot more exercise. 

[00:09:59] Donna Hoover: It doesn't hurt. 

[00:10:00] Mike Roth: I've been here in The Villages eight years and I put on a few pounds.

Love to get rid of them, but I don't really wanna try braces again. 

[00:10:07] Donna Hoover: No I wouldn't recommend it at this point, but it's interesting because. I exercise, I did in California when I lived there. And then when I moved here we continued to go to the gym. I didn't really change my routine any, but I had changed how much food I was taking in.

I think the only way that I could have lost it, say, with exercise was I would probably have to do a lot more exercise than I was doing. But for me, just focusing on what I was eating was the key . 

[00:10:38] Mike Roth: Yeah. A couple of years before I came to The Villages, I started exercising at a gym every day.

And they had an indoor pool in Cincinnati, so it was possible to swim. I told the trainer there that I was going there to lose my belly fat. And working on it for five years with the machines and the swimming. Guess how much weight I lost? 

[00:10:57] Donna Hoover: How much? 

[00:10:58] Mike Roth: Zero. 

[00:10:59] Donna Hoover: Why would that be? 

[00:11:01] Mike Roth: Oh, we're eating a lot in Cincinnati.

[00:11:02] Donna Hoover: You can't just do one of the things .

[00:11:04] Mike Roth: They had these October Fest festivals, where they saw the brats and the mets and the gigantic whipped cream cakes. 

[00:11:11] Donna Hoover: Oh my gosh. 

[00:11:12] Mike Roth: And you had to have a couple of German beers. You go to an October Fest. 

It seemed like almost every month it was a festival of some kind.

[00:11:18] Donna Hoover: Like here. 

[00:11:19] Mike Roth: Yeah. There are a lot of festivals here too. 

[00:11:21] Donna Hoover: There are. 

[00:11:22] Mike Roth: So I came to The Villages and joined Genesis Health Club at the time, and went to that for several years until COVID. And while I never really lost I maintained the weight off that I had off.

[00:11:33] Donna Hoover: That's, an accomplishment, especially during COVID. You're right there with the food all day long. 

[00:11:37] Mike Roth: But after COVID, I decided I wasn't gonna go back to the gym. 

I didn't like the gym that much. Last year I joined the gym here in The Villages because they had that a hundred dollars for three months deal.

[00:11:47] Donna Hoover: Yeah. They're doing that right now, as a matter of fact. Now, I don't know when this is coming out, but they're doing it for this June, July, August. 

[00:11:54] Mike Roth: My wife and I just said that last summer it was very good because it was too hot to walk in the neighborhood, which is something we like to do.

we put on our earbuds and listened to a novel. 

[00:12:06] Donna Hoover: Oh, that's nice. Are you listening to different novels? 

[00:12:08] Mike Roth: The average novel is about 12 hours long. I've also listened to some improv stuff and a lot of stuff about the cast members and Saturday Night Live and Belushi's Life and some of the others.

[00:12:20] Donna Hoover: And she doesn't wanna listen to that. 

[00:12:22] Mike Roth: She gives me some of 'em were very interesting. Okay. I don't think she listened to Kevin Hart with me. I had to listen to him in the car. I think his book was called. " You can't make this shit up", but it was a true story of how he became a successful standup comedian.

And I read, listened to many more books like that when I was exercising, So that worked out very well. This summer we're doing more exercise in the pool, going to the pool at an hour when most people would not. Most people in The Villages just start dinner at about 4:00 PM 

And it runs till 9:00 PM So during those hours where the people are out at the restaurants, my wife and I go to the pool to swim.

Because you could actually swim laps in an adult pool then. 

Okay. Have you ever swam lap? 

[00:13:05] Donna Hoover: Yeah, I'm not a very good swimmer. I flunked swimming lessons three times as a child. I'll just leave it at that. 

[00:13:11] Mike Roth: I was talking to one of my Mercedes-Benz cohorts, and his wife says to me, yeah, I swim every day, but I wear a face mask and a snorkel.

And I said. You do? She says, yeah, it works great. 

[00:13:24] Donna Hoover: That's my kind of girl. 

[00:13:25] Mike Roth: So the next day, or a couple days later, we're out in Publix shopping and we're going down the aisle to check out, and all of a sudden there's snorkels and masks. So for $10 I threw in my shopping cart and try 'em out.

And darn if it wasn't a lot easier to swim with it, 

[00:13:42] Donna Hoover: Oh, yeah. Yeah, it would be. 

[00:13:43] Mike Roth: And then I discovered that the mask wasn't so good. Didn't fit quite right. It leaked, and the snorkel didn't have a good valve to prevent the water from back flowing in. 

[00:13:51] Donna Hoover: So you need a good one, but you see this, it went 

[00:13:52] Mike Roth: Oh. And you found one. I found both a good snorkel and a good mask. They clipped together. So that's the way I swim in the pools. 

[00:14:00] Donna Hoover: I think that's an awesome idea because one of the reasons I had trouble in my swimming lessons as a child. was I couldn't get that breathing rhythm, right?

And the other was, I was petrified of the deep end of the pool, and you had to go in the deep end if you wanted to pass the class. Just couldn't do it. I was so scared. 

[00:14:17] Mike Roth: I know what you mean. From high school, they threw you in. Yeah. It's not good in Brooklyn, they just threw you in, learn how to swim.

I learned how to swim but I never liked the chlorine in my eyes. It really bothered me from both a psychological basis and physical pain. And so wearing a swim mask and the pool's here, fantastic. You look in the pool and you say, oh boy. This pulls a little bit of dirty, said, that bug just went by me.

[00:14:40] Donna Hoover: I'm glad to have this mask on. 

[00:14:42] Mike Roth: Oh, I can see it. Yeah. it can't get in my eye. I'm wearing the mask. 

[00:14:46] Donna Hoover: So we have a way to exercise whatever it is. And then I'll give you a couple tips. What I do for food issues, one of them is if you're going to a gathering.

There's a couple of choices you can make. One of them is, you could eat ahead of time, like we're talking about. Say, oh, you are going to somewhere at a rec center to some kind of show or something, and they're like, bring your food, eat ahead of time. if you wanna bring a snack, bring something healthy 

[00:15:11] Mike Roth: Bring your own ice cream cone. milk before you get the chance to eat it. 

[00:15:14] Donna Hoover: if you go in hungry, you're asking for trouble, people are bringing cookies and cake and, Cupcakes. Are you kidding me? I'm hungry. I'm going to eat that stuff.

[00:15:22] Mike Roth: The potlucks were, 

[00:15:23] Donna Hoover: oh yeah. 

[00:15:24] Mike Roth: Tremendous. 

[00:15:25] Donna Hoover: you gotta bring something you can eat or eat ahead of time, or do a little bit of both. 

[00:15:29] Mike Roth: You have to become a. 

[00:15:31] Donna Hoover: pescatarian. 

[00:15:31] Mike Roth: Pescatarian. We had one of those in the improv the other 

[00:15:34] Donna Hoover: We do. 

[00:15:35] Mike Roth: She was a pescatarian. 

[00:15:35] Donna Hoover: Period. 

[00:15:36] Mike Roth: That means she ate fish. Only fish. 

[00:15:38] Donna Hoover: Fish. 

[00:15:38] Mike Roth: Now she was from New Mexico thinking of moving to The Villages. It's hard to imagine any fresh fish in New Mexico. 

[00:15:45] Donna Hoover: Yeah, but she didn't say it was fresh. 

[00:15:47] Mike Roth: Eating right is important. And here in The Villages, a lot of people have turned to the medical profession for weight loss, which on the surface doesn't sound so bad. In fact, every day you open up the Daily Sun and you can find four ads from doctors promising weight loss. 

[00:16:05] Donna Hoover: Are they all doing different things or are they all doing similar things?

[00:16:09] Mike Roth: I think most of 'em are doing similar things. They're prescribing the GLP - 1 drugs whether it was Ozempic 

[00:16:17] Donna Hoover: I've heard .Some very scary things about Ozempic. I wouldn't get near that. 

[00:16:22] Mike Roth: my doctor told me to try it. 

[00:16:23] Donna Hoover: Don't do it. 

[00:16:24] Mike Roth: what did you hear? 

[00:16:26] Donna Hoover: There have been a few people that have come out that have done it.

There were some celebrity people who've talked about it on camera and said, this is what happened to me. there was one young lady, maybe in her twenties, and she didn't honestly look like she needed to lose weight, but she thought So she did it. And after a short period of time, maybe a few months, her health started to deteriorate.

She had I can't remember specific issues, but I remember her saying that the things that were happening to her body were not fixable. this was permanent damage So I wouldn't venture into that. Obviously not a doctor, but if you're thinking about doing it, do a little research on the web. 

[00:17:05] Mike Roth: So my doctor gave me a pill to try for weight loss. he gave me a 20 milligram pill and I had taken one a day and I was doing pretty good. I was losing a pound or two a week. I said that's great. Now, we want to increase the dose.

He bumped it up to 37 milligrams a day. by the sixth or the seventh day, I was having headaches. Fogginess feeling listless and lethargic. So I stopped taking the pill and he says to me the next thing to is to try Wegovy or is another one of these newer medicines than ozempic.

And I said to him what about the reports in the medical journals of people losing their eyesight because they're taking this stuff? And he said, oh yeah, that happens in a few cases but it's not reversible. I said what? And he said yeah, not reversible. I said, oh, so I made a non reversible decision that I'm not gonna take those drugs.

And they said we got this newer one. But it doesn't have the clinical research of seven or eight years that Osempic does. But there's no reports of eyesight failure 

[00:18:07] Donna Hoover: Yet. 

[00:18:08] Mike Roth: I said 

[00:18:08] Donna Hoover: I'll pass 

[00:18:09] Mike Roth: Yeah while I might agree to be a Guinea pig in fact on certain things where, I've got more to gain than lose, that's a big loss.

[00:18:18] Donna Hoover: That is a huge loss. So it's nice when you get down to the weight you wanna be at, right? However you have to be able to sustain that even if you did a drug and it made you a little foggy or whatever, you got to your weight.

Now what are you gonna do? Because if you haven't changed your activity level and your eating habits, you are going right back to where you were so therefore, 

[00:18:41] Mike Roth: I know a couple of people like that, 

[00:18:42] Donna Hoover: And so I'm not a doctor, but it only makes sense that you do it a natural way that is sustainable to you.

a lot of that has to do with learning to eat healthier. one thing I can say that. Is really positive in this vein is that for everything that you want to eat that's crummy for you, say potato chips or, some kind of cookies or whatever. 

[00:19:03] Mike Roth: I love devil dogs. 

[00:19:04] Donna Hoover: I'd love devil dogs. They're Terrible for you. 

[00:19:07] Mike Roth: have you tried one 

[00:19:07] Donna Hoover: Yeah. 

[00:19:08] Mike Roth: At improv, 

[00:19:09] Donna Hoover: Or less. 

[00:19:09] Mike Roth: We treat, everybody as if they're little children in big bodies. And because we're all little children, we have snack time midway through.

[00:19:17] Donna Hoover: Yes we do. 

[00:19:18] Mike Roth: And I tried one of the devil dogs and it tasted nothing like the devil dogs that I remembered as a kid. so I said, I can't eat that anymore. 

[00:19:26] Donna Hoover: So the good news is same thing with hosted Twinkies. I haven't had those for a really long time, but the good news is.

Anything that you like, say Devil Dogs, which, oh my gosh, that's been like one of my lifetime favorites. 'cause originally from Massachusetts and we had those there 

[00:19:41] Mike Roth: Especially when they were cold 

[00:19:42] Donna Hoover: But you can make them, I've made my own devil dogs before.

Really? Yes. 

[00:19:48] Mike Roth: improv party, who gonna, 

[00:19:49] Donna Hoover: I should make some devil dogs. I'll think about this, but you can use healthy alternatives. So if you like chips, there are ways to eat chips without seed oils. Chips that are made with avocado oil, for instance, or olive oil.

Olive oil. Yeah. So a more positive way, to indulge 

[00:20:08] Mike Roth: Olive oil helps your brain. 

[00:20:09] Donna Hoover: So what I'm saying is It involves work and intention, but you can certainly make some positive changes and still enjoy some of those things that you love that are indulgences, 

[00:20:22] Mike Roth: Growing up as a kid, I loved black and white cookies. 

[00:20:24] Donna Hoover: Oh yeah, those are good too. 

[00:20:26] Mike Roth: York, you know those? Half vanilla icing, half chocolate icing on the same cookie. And it's about three inches in diameter. 

[00:20:31] Donna Hoover: good. 

[00:20:32] Mike Roth: So I was back there in June, went to the best bakery on Long Island, bought the black and white.

I didn't like them. 

[00:20:38] Donna Hoover: Did they change 'em or you've changed? 

[00:20:40] Mike Roth: I think I've changed. I also used to love the seven layer cakes. I don't know if you had those in Boston. 

[00:20:45] Donna Hoover: Oh yeah. 

[00:20:45] Mike Roth: Seven layer cakes. chocolate. 

[00:20:47] Donna Hoover: put whipped cream in between any layer or Bavarian cream 

[00:20:51] Mike Roth: They were fantastic.

Now we went to a family party, so I bought two 7 layer cakes They're only about eight inches long. I figured we're gonna have 16 people. 

[00:20:59] Donna Hoover: least 

[00:20:59] Mike Roth: I bought two cakes. 

[00:21:00] Donna Hoover: can always 

[00:21:01] Mike Roth: So I had a slice.

It wasn't anywhere near as good as I tasted. 

[00:21:05] Donna Hoover: I hate 

[00:21:05] Mike Roth: So I'm cured. But, it goes back into your psychology of what you eat. I went to kindergarten in first summer of first grade here in Florida, in Miami. And I remember in first grade at lunchtime, the teacher would always say, eat all of your food to all of the kids.

And there was always the story. Think of the little kid, the starving children in Europe, right? 

[00:21:28] Donna Hoover: Or somewhere. 

[00:21:30] Mike Roth: Or somewhere in China. And if you ate all the food. On your plate for a week, they give you this white little button that looked like a plate and had a knife and fork crossed over it. And you were a member of the Clean Plate Club.

Now I've been trying to keep my membership active in the Clean Plate Club for over 60 years 

[00:21:47] Donna Hoover: And it is. You know it, Mike, it is total psychology right there because you already sit down with something and you know you have an end game, you have a goal. One thing that they teach you is one drink. I won't get into the water thing 'cause that's actually not necessarily great 'cause of the acids in your stomach. But they do tell you, and I know this is true, that it takes 20 minutes to feel satiated. So if you're eating and you eat until you're.

[00:22:13] Mike Roth: Oh. 

[00:22:13] Donna Hoover: In 20 minutes you're gonna feel really bad. 

[00:22:16] Mike Roth: You're over the top, 

[00:22:17] Donna Hoover: Right? So now you have to realize if I slow this train down, eat a little bit slower, just take more breaks. You'll start to feel satiated before actually, eaten your whole plate of food necessarily.

So I'm gonna 

[00:22:31] Mike Roth: I'm gonna start a new club and listeners can hit that follow button, like button. There's a talk back button up at the top. let me know if you want one of my Dirty Plate Club buttons. It'll be a plate with some mashed potatoes and meat on it.

[00:22:44] Donna Hoover: There you go. And you can always take that food and save it for tomorrow. You don't have to eat it all now, 

[00:22:49] Mike Roth: Or you could feed it to your cat. the Dirty Plate Club where, You don't finish everything on your plate. 

And you get that doggy bag, even if you don't have a doggy.

And take the food home. 

[00:23:00] Donna Hoover: Yes. 

[00:23:01] Mike Roth: And you can eat it for lunch the next day, or dinner 

[00:23:03] Donna Hoover: right? 

[00:23:03] Mike Roth: Plain throw it out. 

[00:23:04] Donna Hoover: So we're just talking about moderation here. we're talking about being smart when you're gonna go out, and go to some activity, a driveway party, whatever it is.

[00:23:13] Mike Roth: Yeah. I do have to give a positive call out. I have a friend whose wife had fatty liver disease and she was almost obesely overweight. over a year It cured her fatty liver disease. She stopped taking Ozempic and now she's thin or normal. 

[00:23:34] Donna Hoover: And her health is fine.

[00:23:35] Mike Roth: Her health seems to be fine. 

[00:23:36] Donna Hoover: She was, there's no guarantee, so thank God for that. 

[00:23:39] Mike Roth: But she got off the train. 

[00:23:41] Donna Hoover: That's good. 

[00:23:41] Mike Roth: Put the weight on because it was a different order of magnitude. The obesity was caused by fatty liver disease, and when the ozempic cured, that was good.

Now we should go back a few more years. Let's go back maybe 15 more years. What was the medical procedure to cure obesity? 

[00:24:04] Donna Hoover: Oh, they would staple your stomach 

[00:24:07] Mike Roth: Gastric bypass, right? Yes. I had some people in the medical community involved with my programs in Cincinnati, and they discovered that there was an interesting side effect of having your stomach staple.

[00:24:18] Donna Hoover: was that? 

[00:24:19] Mike Roth: It cured diabetes, because you could only eat less the amount of insulin that your body produced normally worked again. 

[00:24:28] Donna Hoover: Yeah. I strongly believe that most illnesses we have in our bodies, not all, but most, can be cured with your diet, correcting your diet.

[00:24:39] Mike Roth: I think there's a lot to be said for. Food that's not processed with artificial preservatives and other ingredients that are unnatural. Whether I love the way red dye number two looks when you get those Marino cherries. 

I'd rather have cherries that were ripened on a tree.

[00:24:59] Donna Hoover: No, you're totally right. 

[00:25:00] Mike Roth: Yeah. And they taste just as good. 

If we eat right, eat in moderation, do some exercise. I'm gonna look into that gym program for a hundred bucks. There you go. It's something to do during the summer and I think we can keep that weight off and avoid complications from weight.

Yes. Like diabetes. 

[00:25:18] Donna Hoover: Yes. 

[00:25:18] Mike Roth: A terrible disease. 

[00:25:20] Donna Hoover: Yes, it's very important. you feel better, you feel lighter, you have more energy, you look better. What's wrong with all that? 

[00:25:27] Mike Roth: Over the past year we've had several speakers at the Mercedes Club talk about legalizing marijuana.

One of the formulations of marijuana apparently causes weight loss. 

[00:25:39] Donna Hoover: There's one that causes the munchies. I don't know what the other one is. 

[00:25:43] Mike Roth: Yeah. how are they different? It's a different formulation, huh? Because there are over 200 ingredients in plant marijuana and how they manipulate the ingredients, you can get a gummy that causes you to lose weight.

[00:25:54] Donna Hoover: okay. 

[00:25:55] Mike Roth: I say that's a pretty good idea. I like that one. 

[00:25:57] Donna Hoover: I'm gonna be keeping my eye on you If you suddenly start losing a lot of weight, I'm gonna start asking questions. 

[00:26:02] Mike Roth: We're all 

on that trreadmill. 

[00:26:04] Donna Hoover: Yes. Not that you need to lose very much weight. 

[00:26:07] Mike Roth: You didn't notice that I lost almost 10 pounds. 

[00:26:10] Donna Hoover: Congratulations. Since I came 

[00:26:11] Mike Roth: back from vacation. 

[00:26:12] Donna Hoover: That's fantastic. 

[00:26:13] Mike Roth: It's easy to put the 10 pounds on. You get in the car, you drive up to New York and back, 

[00:26:18] Donna Hoover: Where are my snacks?

[00:26:20] Mike Roth: Come on you're stopping where the electric charger are at Walmart's. And you're not eating at a. Fancy restaurant you are eating at whatever they have at Subways or Burger King. 

[00:26:28] Donna Hoover: Don't forget about Bucky's. 

[00:26:29] Mike Roth: Oh yeah, We did manage to stop in a brand new Bucky's in South Carolina. 

[00:26:34] Donna Hoover: We did not have those back, in the West.

That was a whole new experience being in one of those. 

[00:26:40] Mike Roth: The Bucky's don't have restaurant type seating, so I ordered their famous brisket sandwich, right? 

I had to eat in the car. one of my. Rules of life has been never eat in the car. 

A it's sloppy. And B, you'll eat more than you want to eat just to get rid of the food.

Which is what happened at Bucky's. But I will admit, the Bucky's brisket sandwich was very good. It was comparable to the best brisket I've ever eaten in Houston, Texas. 

[00:27:08] Donna Hoover: Wow. That's saying something. 

[00:27:10] Mike Roth: That's right. We're not going to Houston 

[00:27:12] Donna Hoover: No. 

[00:27:13] Mike Roth: We're gonna be back in two weeks with a new subject.

Thanks for joining me today, Donna. 

[00:27:17] Donna Hoover: Thank you for having me 

[00:27:18] Mike Roth: Good. if anyone has got any questions, use that little box at the top where it says feedback or chat with us. you'll be sending a text message to me and Donna and I can answer your questions on the next show. 

[00:27:30] Donna Hoover: We'll see 'em next time. 

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